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California Perestroika?

California perestroika?

California perestroika?

Please see http://www.foxandhoundsdaily.com/2012/06/is-perestroika-coming-in-california/

Change for the better will only happen when a majority of California voters realize the connection between electing Dems and the results they are getting.  Change for the better will only happen when a majority of California voters realize that liberalism, socialism, prorgressive’ism, social justice, or whatever name the left wants to put on their policies, does not work.

Using the Soviet Union perestroika analogy in the above linked article, the communist party could not reform itself or the Soviet Union.  It had to fall and be replaced.  Similarly, California’s “ruling troika” has to fall and be replaced.

Change for the better will only happen when a majority of California voters decide to return public policy to the values and principles that made America and California (in the past) great, free and prosperous.

4 years with a conservative (not Rep) governor and legislature would produce such economic progress, it would make your head spin.  If you couple pro business and pro job policies with California’s (weather) climate and other advantages, you would see an explosion of economic growth, especially if the Obama regime falls.  Even if the Obama regime stays in power, Texas shows what pro business and pro job policies can do on a state level.

Until then, California can only serve as a warning to the rest of America.

Eric Shamp June 13, 2012 at 03:20 am
Yeah... I come from Texas. I do love Texas and the people who live there, but here's what it means to be a wage earner there: http://www.texaswatch.org/2011/08/texas-miracle-or-myth/. Say, maybe it's OK if an adult bookstore opens up next to your house, because property rights are paramount? How about if your neighborhood sinks into Galveston Bay, because no one limits groundwater extraction? How many times can the Gulf be decimated by a lack of regulation? Guess what would happen to the Texas economy if illegal immigration were stopped? And, for Pete's sake, stop comparing California to the Soviet Union... yes, excessive regulation and taxation and social nanny-ism is bad, but good grief, no one can take you seriously if you make that ridiculous comparison. Please meet and talk to someone who immigrated from the former USSR, then tell me that Stalin and Schwarzenegger are one and the same.
Gregory Brittain June 13, 2012 at 07:02 pm
I do not suggest CA is as bad as the Soviet Union.
The Soviet Union/perestrioka analogy is from the linked article. The question is whether the ruling "troika" in CA, the Dems, the greens and government employee unions, can reform themselves and CA any better than the Communist Party could reform itself and the Soviet Union. And this assumes they want to. The article concludes Brown and the Dems have not even tried. My point is that even if they try, ala Gorbachev, CA's ruling troika will not be any more successful at reform than was Gorbachev and the CP in the USSR. Gorbachev and the CP needed to be replaced and CA's ruling troika needs to be replaced for there to be any progress or improvement.
Eric Shamp June 13, 2012 at 07:45 pm
So, the analogy is Joel Kotkin's. It is still not a useful analogy, and it only serves to make a rational argument sound irrational. There are WAY too many differences between the former USSR and California politics. I've seen Mr. Kotkin speak a few times, and he's a better geographer than political commentator. Perhaps his own Russian heritage has driven him to see "commies" everywhere.
At any rate, the Republicans are just as intransigent as the Democrats; it's just that they're outnumbered. A Republican-driven "perestroika" would hardly be a solution... we'd just wind up with the Texas model you described: more sub-living-wage jobs, no protection of the public commons, and still no solution to the income divide. I will partially agree with you on these points: Democrats are not coming up with any pragmatic solutions (I suspect because they are too busy tacking against Republican extremism), public unions will face their own demise if they do not share in the sacrifice (as in WI), and there need to be limits on state-mandated sustainability. I suspect that our main point of contention is that you seem to advocate for a revolution/restructuring and I advocate for a measured, rational approach to reform. Your strategy requires fear, anger, and Party allegiance (using Soviet imagery borrowed from Mr. Kotkin), mine requires statesmanship, reason, and the deconstruction of both Parties. Your approach, admittedly, is probably easier.
Amanda Frye June 14, 2012 at 03:09 am
Making such a comparison between Soviet Union Perestroika and Democrats is ignorant. You obviously do not understand America or the former Soviet Union. Did you ever visit or live in the Communist Eastern Block?
Clavell Jackson June 14, 2012 at 10:24 am
Texas is the biggest polluter in the nation, has low wages, a lousy public education system and a high teen pregnancy and STD rate. Yeah, let's be like them.
Gregory Brittain June 14, 2012 at 01:42 pm
You might look up the word "analogy."
CA is crumbling and decaying and needs major reform analogous to the USSR in the early 1980s. The linked article suggests the recent election shows signs reform in CA (pension reform passing by 2/3 in San Jose and San Diego) that the author analogized to Perestroika, Mikhail Gorbachev's attempts to reform the USSR and CP. The article concludes Brown is more like that "Yuri Andropov, an aged hegemon desperately trying to save a dying system" than Mikhail Gorbachev. My point is that even if Brown wanted to reform CA and ruling "troika" in CA, (the Dem party, greens and government employee unions) he will not be any more successful than Gorbachev was. Again, using an analogy, to make progress, the CP in the USSR had to be replaced, and the ruling troika in CA will have to be replaced.
Gregory Brittain June 14, 2012 at 01:46 pm
I don't know what liberal or left wing website you got your "information" from, but people and businesses are voting with their feet, and Texas operates under the same Federal government as every other state.
Gregory Brittain June 14, 2012 at 01:49 pm
For those of you who like the results you are getting in CA, keep voting for Dems. If you think you are getting your money's worth from CA government, keep voting for Dems. If you think CA in on the right track, keep voting for Dems.
Eric Shamp June 14, 2012 at 02:14 pm
Gregory, I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what an analogy is. Of all the crumbling infrastructures in the world to compare California to, it seems quite deliberate that Mr. Kotkin would choose the great failure of Soviet communism to make his analogy. In the confused minds of Fox News watchers, it reinforces the ridiculous notion that liberals and Democrats are socialists bent on destroying the free market and, in fact, free will. Would you appreciate it if I compared conservatives and Republicans to the Italian fascists, because in my fevered imagination I think they seek rule by a single party? (I am only imagining that, aren't I?) I believe that both liberal and conservative ideologies are necessary, and that we all benefit from the clash of ideas. This Nation has accommodated both ideologies for more than two centuries. The glaring exception is the years between the Compromise of 1850 and the end of the Civil War. The poisonous rhetoric that got us to that point sounded a lot like the poisonous rhetoric we hear a lot of today.
SBSWZ June 14, 2012 at 02:33 pm
DIRECT knowledge of atrocities in Communist China of 1949 ...
BTW, who is "Pete" when someone says, "For Pete's sake"? (I really do not know) Thank you kindly
Eric Shamp June 14, 2012 at 02:39 pm
For the sake of St. Peter, I believe. Not of our recent congressional candidate.
SBSWZ June 14, 2012 at 02:50 pm
If employers (so-called, "wealthy") left California (which they have), who is left to pay the taxes to support the crumbling infrastructure?
Eric Shamp June 14, 2012 at 02:57 pm
If we lower taxes on employers to keep them here, who will support the crumbling infrastructure?
SBSWZ June 14, 2012 at 03:11 pm
People who work pay taxes to pay for the infrastructure.
People who don't work don't have money to pay taxes Less employers, less workers , less tax base
Clavell Jackson June 14, 2012 at 03:24 pm
Mr. Brittain, I get my views from a variety of sites BBC, CNN, WSJ, HuffPost, Raw Story, RT, Al-Jazeera, The Real News Network, ect. Some of those are liberal, but nowadays the right calls any news site that disagrees with them liberal. By the way, the words left and liberal are interchangeable. Just pick one. Also, even Barbara Bush has admitted that Texas has a lousy education system.
http://www.chron.com/opinion/outlook/article/We-can-t-afford-to-cut-education-1691329.php
SBSWZ June 14, 2012 at 03:29 pm
bad intel...friendly fire
Gregory Brittain June 14, 2012 at 05:43 pm
I agree liberal and left have become synonymous.
The MSM are virtually all liberal, and they are advocates rather than journalists. Without looking at the data, I'll bet Texas does better at educating its children at a lower cost than does CA.
Clavell Jackson June 14, 2012 at 06:08 pm
The MSM is not liberal, that is a lie advocated by consevatives to move the media to the right. Read What Liberal Media by Eric Alterman, That is simply incorrect. I suppose you think CNN is liberal.
Gregory Brittain June 14, 2012 at 06:16 pm
Obama said he wants to fundamentally transform America. The Dems want to make America into a European socialist country. If you deny that, you are trying to fool us or you are fooling yourself.
We fundamentally disagree on what type of country we want and the values and principles on which it should be based. We disagree on ends, not only means. Conservatives want an America based on the values and principles that made America great, free and prosperous. First and foremost they are liberty (political, religious and economic), E Pluribus Unum, and In God We Trust. They would not publicly admit it, but Dems, Libs, the Left disagree with every one of them. The left believes in: 1. Equality (although of course some animals are more equal than others). 2. Government control. They, the Left, are smarter, wiser and morally superior to everyone else so they, the Left, should control the economy and people’s lives. 3. Instead of E Pluribus Unum, the Left believes in multi-culturalism. 4. Instead of In God We Trust, the Left believes in secularism and in government we trust. They want as many people dependent on government as possible. The less people are bitterly clinging to religion, the more likely they will accept dependence on big government. Hence, the Left’s 50 year “war on religion.” There is another key difference between right and left, we see people as individuals. The left sees people according to their group identity.
Gregory Brittain June 14, 2012 at 06:17 pm
Please see the following WSJ article about how socialism is working out in Europe.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303734204577464681763370856.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
Gregory Brittain June 14, 2012 at 06:39 pm
If we tell you 2 + 2 is 5, it's 5.
Eric Shamp June 14, 2012 at 06:56 pm
You sure do have the liberals pegged. Now that you've explained liberals and what they REALLY want, are you saying there isn't room for liberal ideology in this country? Because those people sound awful. It's a tricky problem, though, because there sure are a lot of them around. What's your solution?
SBSWZ June 14, 2012 at 07:05 pm
Isn't there a histogram-like spectrum of "liberalism" v "conservatism"
Are the definitions of liberalism and conservatism static or dynamic depending on the issues upon these concepts are applied and to whom these concepts are applicable?
Eric Shamp June 14, 2012 at 07:52 pm
That sounds really complicated. How could I possibly make rash conclusions about people in a world like that?
SBSWZ June 16, 2012 at 05:14 am
do people from China immigrate to America to learn and embrace communism? do people sneak into North Korea expecting a better life?
thes are not complicated questions i hope.

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