Would You Pay a Bill That Called You Fat?

Three women who dined at a Stockton Casino were shocked at the words that came on their bill.

It's not what three women were expecting as they sought to settle their tab at Chilly D's restaurant at the Cameo Club Casino in Stockton on Thursday.

The bill hurt the feelings of the three women, according to ABC News.

"I got the bill, I was looking at the bill [and] I was like, 'Why does this receipt say 'fat girls?'" customer Christine Duran told ABC News in this story.

When the trio demanded an explanation from management about the "Fat Girls" comment on the bill, which was for three tri-tip dinners totaling $25.50, they offered to give the ladies as much as a 50-percent discount on the meal.

But the women refused to pay, and were shocked that the waiter, who apparently used the term to keep track of the bill, according to the story, could be so cruel. They were also shocked that the restaurant would force them to pay the bill after basically insulting them.

The owner of the casino, Jimmy Siemers, apologized for the rude comment and told the women that the casino would take measures to avoid any future incidents. The casino did not make the women pay.

Now we put the question to the readers of the Patch. Would you pay for a bill that insulted you? How would you have handled this situation? Did they overreact? Did the women do the right thing?

Tell us in comments.

Lorraine Pozniak December 18, 2012 at 02:31 PM
Last thing you remember before being decked by a Welshwoman, or last thing you remember before passing out from being intoxicated? Either way, she was right...
desertpatriot December 18, 2012 at 07:48 PM
lorraine, just out of curiosity how tall are and how much do you weigh?
Lorraine Pozniak December 18, 2012 at 09:08 PM
Curiosity killed the cat, desertpatriot...
desertpatriot December 19, 2012 at 05:53 AM
5' 4" and 200lbs. got it
Lorraine Pozniak December 19, 2012 at 06:18 AM
Wrong answer, desertpatriot... What does MY weight have anything to do with this discussion, anyway?
Mariana Zuelsdorf December 19, 2012 at 06:48 AM
Desertpatriot. you are in the running for the rudest, most obnoxious person on Patch, but you're tied for 1st place. I met a lot of people like you in the military, which I presume you are, but the one thing they had in common was the ability to show how infantile and insecure they really are. And if you aren't in the military, then you have no reason to look like a cross between Rambo and the Marlboro Man
desertpatriot December 19, 2012 at 06:04 PM
mary, with all due respect this is not your fight don't go away mad… just go away. have a nice day
desertpatriot December 19, 2012 at 06:12 PM
you defended a pair of fat chicks. that makes you...err...guilty as charged dp: +2 points. lorrie: -2 points. dp wins. game over
Mariana Zuelsdorf December 19, 2012 at 07:37 PM
With all due respect, it is as much my fight as it is yours. Patch exists for comments, but there is never a reason to be obnoxious to other posters. Rudeness is a classic sign of insecurity. When one is insecure, attacking everyone, and everything, is both a defensive and protective move. You have a real fine day too
Lorraine Pozniak December 19, 2012 at 08:41 PM
Wrong again, desertpatriot... My hobby is weightlifting. I can do 1,000 lb. leg presses. What do you do for fun, other than be anonymously obnoxious on the Internet? I defended a trio of women who did absolutely nothing to deserve being made fun of. They just happened to go out to dinner at a place where a jerk had a chip on his shoulder. If they had been asked to leave for being drunk & disorderly, or because they made a mess, I'd be calling them names, too, in all honesty, because then, they would've deserved it. I'm used to discrimination, but for a different reason. I've lived as a Muslim for almost two years now & I've made the conscious decision to dress in traditional Middle Eastern clothes, most of the time. I'm usually well received because the most people know better, but when ignorant people see me, all they see is the way I dress. Some of them incorrectly assume that I don't speak English & they're stupid enough to make ignorant comments right in front of me. That's when the New Yorker in me takes over & sets them straight, like I'm about to do to you. You called Monic insensitive for calling you names, hurting your feelings & lowering your self-esteem, which you don't have to begin with. People like you have no respect for yourself, or others & when you lash out at innocent people, they have a right to retaliate. If you really are US military, you must be one of the idiots that has done things to make me ashamed to be an American.
ATC December 19, 2012 at 09:28 PM
Actually, Lorraine, it is YOU that was out of line with your response to jon cyr. His story, which was obviously a joke rather than a real occurance, started with a polite inquiry: "Are you ladies from Ireland?" Which was met with an extremely rude and uncalled for: "It's Wales, you friggin' idiot!" Only then did the original gentleman respond in kind: “Are you two whales from Ireland?” Your response defends the rude Welshwoman, but not the man's perfectly justifiable reaction to that rudeness. You're a hypocrite. I would also suggest that perhaps some of the "discrimination" you claim is likely brought on by your own actions and attitudes towards others?
Lorraine Pozniak December 19, 2012 at 09:46 PM
Gary, how many times does it take you to post, delete & re-word the same comment? I got all THREE of them via e-mail. Your opinion is duly noted, but I'm taking it with a grain of salt, considering it's coming from the man who said in a previous post, "They didn't need a free meal, they need a gym membership." I think you're the one who's the hypocrite and needs to "Get a grip."
Bud Burlison December 19, 2012 at 10:29 PM
I'm just pleased I don't have to look at that phony 'warfighter" pic that desertpatriot put up with his blogs. Mariana, never respond to a troll. It's like wrestling with a pig.
tom maddalena December 19, 2012 at 10:33 PM
ever notice how these comment threads seem to deteriorate after about the 10th comment?
Robert Corona December 19, 2012 at 10:42 PM
Good point tom m. I think they should limit people to 3 posts on every thread. Starts getting nasty I stop reading.
ATC December 19, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Since the patch does not allow edits, the only way to do so is to delete and re-post. The fact that you have decided to have email updates every time someone posts hints at an unhealthy obsession with this article. You can’t justify your hypocrisy of supporting the Welsh woman’s rudeness that I pointed out, so instead you divert attention to insulting me. Classic. Democrat, right? Want some pepper with that salt?
ATC December 19, 2012 at 11:07 PM
BTW, Lorraine, people like you are scary, IMO. You advocate the jailing of people based on their words: “If they had been black and he called them the "n-word", Muslim and he called them "ragheads", or gay and he called them "dykes", he'd be on his way to jail. Race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, and disability are Federally protected. God bless America.” –Lorraine Pozniak No, Lorraine, a person would NOT be on their way to jail for calling someone a name, no matter how much that word offends you. Race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, and disability...These things are Federally protected for discrimination purposes, not your “feelings”. You might be surprised to know that there is such a thing as Freedom of Speech in this country. It is one of our most sacredly held beliefs, and if you don’t like that, I suggest that you leave. God Bless America.
Lorraine Pozniak December 19, 2012 at 11:16 PM
Let me get this straight, Gary...You had to reword a comment THREE TIMES and I'M the one with "an unhealthy obsession with this article"? Pot...kettle...black...ring a bell? Then you've got the nerve to call me a DEMOCRAT? Sorry, I just threw up in my mouth a little... BTW, I've shut off the e-mail updates because you blissfully ignorant hypocrites are giving me a headache...
Let it troll, let it troll, let it troll.... December 19, 2012 at 11:19 PM
Troll...troll...troll your posts gently across the net....
ATC December 19, 2012 at 11:31 PM
I just figured that since you believe certain thoughts and speech should be illegal...that the shoe fits...
Lorraine Pozniak December 20, 2012 at 12:06 AM
Yes, Gary...Freedom of Speech, not freedom to discriminate against someone in a place of business. That's where the line in drawn. In your personal life, you can think, do or say whatever you want because that's The American Way. Superman protected Truth, Justice and The American Way on TV & my father fought in WWII to protect it, as well. If that waiter would have called them "Fat Beaner Girls", for example, on a written receipt, as part of his job, which is what we were talking about in the first place, that would've been considered discrimination. We're not talking about ignorant people saying ignorant things, we're talking about ignorant people doing ignorant things in business situations. Sorry if I didn't spell it all out for you in a way you could understand. I love America and the US Constitution. I'm not leaving.
desertpatriot December 20, 2012 at 01:23 AM
bitter, party of one. bitter, party of one. your table is ready
ATC December 20, 2012 at 01:37 AM
Wow, Lorraine, you are even more ignorant than I thought. Writing something insulting on their bill IS NOT DISCRIMINATION. It may be disgusting, it may be untasteful, but it is not illegal. I suggest you do a bit of research on our constitution before you make such claims. Speech is not discrimination. Period. Doing "ignorant things in business", while stupid from a business sense, is not illegal. Even Libel (writing something untrue about someone) can only be considered illegal if it is shown to have actually caused the targeted person harm financially or professionally (and no, "feelings" do not count). Yes, discrimination in business is illegal. Were they denied service because they were fat? No. Were they charged more because they were fat? No. Were they given smaller portions, different utinsels, or a lousy table because they were fat? No. They were insulted, not discriminated against. They waiter did something entirely uncalled for and tasteless, but he did not break the law. I'm done trying to explain things to you; it's like trying to teach a pig to sing: it wastes my time and annoys the pig. Perhaps you could ask your father (or maybe Superman) to explain it to you.
Mariana Zuelsdorf December 20, 2012 at 02:01 AM
@Lorraine..now you know who is in second place for the rudest, most obnoxious person on Patch.
ATC December 20, 2012 at 03:14 PM
I suppose my "singing pig" comment was rude, so I will apologize for that. I just get annoyed when someone keeps insisting that something is illegal when it is not. And explaining it, over and over, didn't seem to be having any effect; she continues to insist that speech is unconstitutional. BTW, just because you're not "rude", doesn't make you any less obnoxious, so I'd say you're in 3rd place, Marianna!
Jeremiah December 20, 2012 at 04:20 PM
The original issue was about "class", which neither the waiter, the manager, nor the ladies involved showed. And if one doesn't show "class", it is because they do not have any. That applies to the people posting on this site as well. Sickening to see how many uninvolved people make a mountain out of a molehill. We don't know what caused the waiter to show a lack of class, but he acted in a very juvenile and inappropriate way. The ladies involved were perfectly right to complain - but if they had "class" they would have paid the bill because they ate the food and THEN explained to the manager why they would not be returning and why there was no tip. I ran a restaurant called "Desperados" at Ski Sunrise in Wrightwood for 10 years and I have had to fire workers for rudeness. I have also been treated with rudeness by customers. This is all part of business. At no time did I ever feel I had to make a media issue out of it. Jeremiah
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Darcy Blaze January 11, 2013 at 08:17 AM
This could only have been in California because identifying three fat ladies by that description in a restaurant in any other state would be like identifying three black and white birds in a penguin colony. I'm half a stone over what I should be and working on it, obesity is not going to happen to me. http://www.darcyblaze.com/
Laurie January 11, 2013 at 02:14 PM
Well. they certainly don't have a grip on reality, although I think there needs to be some modicum of respect generally. I would have NOT left a tip, and brought it to the attention of the manager, and never gone back.


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